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An evaluation of the green-house effect by carbon-dioxide (3)

In a previous article that I wrote, I showed that the classic evaluation of the so-called greenhouse effect (GHE) being in the order of 33K might be incorrect and that by the account of a few well known scientists, it could be smaller. But now, what if we are all mistaken?

What if there really were no GHE from CO2 at all?

Somebody who read my post, pointed me to a paper written in 2017 by Robert Ian Holmes. I show the abstract here:

Abstract: It has always been complicated mathematically, to calculate the average near surface atmospheric temperature on planetary bodies with a thick atmosphere. Usually, the Stefan Boltzmann (S-B) black body law is used to provide the effective temperature; then debate arises about the size or relevance of additional factors, including the ‘greenhouse effect’. Presented here is a simple and reliable method of accurately calculating the average near surface atmospheric temperature on planetary bodies which possess a surface atmospheric pressure of over 10kPa. This method requires a gas constant and the knowledge of only three gas parameters: the average near-surface atmospheric pressure, the average near surface atmospheric density and the average mean molar mass of the near-surface atmosphere. The formula used is the molar version of the ideal gas law. It is here demonstrated that the information contained in just these three gas parameters alone is an extremely accurate predictor of atmospheric temperatures on planets with atmospheres >10kPa. This indicates that all information on the effective plus the residual near-surface atmospheric temperature on planetary bodies with thick atmospheres, is automatically ‘baked-in’ to the three mentioned gas parameters. Given this, it is shown that no one gas has an anomalous effect on atmospheric temperatures that is significantly more than any other gas. In short; there can be no 33°C ‘greenhouse effect’ on Earth, or any significant ‘greenhouse effect’ on any other planetary body with an atmosphere of >10kPa. Instead, it is a postulate of this hypothesis that the residual temperature difference between the S-B effective temperature and the measured near-surface temperature is actually caused by adiabatic auto-compression.

Take the time to read the whole paper here:

https://sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=161&doi=10.11648/j.earth.20170606.18

Holmes argues that the average temperature for 8 thick-atmosphere planetary bodies (0.1 bar or more) can be measured with high accuracy – an error range of only 1.2% – by using a formula based on the knowledge of 3 parameters: “[1] the average atmospheric pressure near the surface, [2] the average atmospheric density near the surface, and [3] the average molar mass of the nearby atmosphere.”

Holmes used the derived pressure/density/mass numbers for each planetary body. He then calculated the temperatures of the planets with these figures. The temperature of Venus was calculated to be 739.7 K with the formula. The measured temperature is 740 K. This indicates that the accuracy of the formula is within an error range of only 0.04% for Venus. Considering the pressure/density/mass of the Earth, the calculated temperature is 288.14 K using Holmes’ formula. The measured temperature on earth is 288 K, an exact fit. The calculated temperature of Saturn is 132.8 K. The measured temperature is 134 K – an error of only 0.89%. Apparently for Mercury, Mars and our moon the pressure would be too low to employ this method.

The impressive accuracy of the formula is shown in his Table 1 and in his Figure 2 of the paper (shown together here in one picture):

Discussion

After reading the whole report, the point that I think was the most convincing is the fact that Holmes calculated with an error of only 0.2% what the temperature at the South Pole is. Remember that most of the South Pole area lies at a height of almost 3000 meters above sea level, therefore the pressure and the air density differs considerably to that of earth between the -60 and +60 latitudes.  

Using Holmes’ formula, how much is the effect of more CO2 in the air, exactly?

It appears that the molar mass version of the Ideal Gas Law points to a very low climate sensitivity. I quote exactly what is says in the report, my own comment in brackets [ ] :

‘In particular, formula 5 (and 6) as presented here, totally rules out any possibility that a 33°C greenhouse effect of the type proposed by the IPCC in their reports [23] can exist in the real atmosphere. The reason is that the IPCC state in their reports that a 0.03% increase in atmospheric CO2 (i.e. a doubling from pre-industrial levels) must result in a global temperature rise of ca.3°C; (a range of 1.5°C to 4.5°C, which has hardly changed since 1990) [24]. This is the so-called ‘climate sensitivity’. Anything like this magnitude of warming caused by such a small change in gas levels is completely ruled out by the molar mass version of the ideal gas law.

Calculation for a doubling of CO2 from the pre-industrial level:

T = 101.33/ (8.314 x 1.226 /28.98)  [molecular weight of air changes only from 28.97 to 28.98 due to the doubling of CO2 from 0.03 to 0.06%]

Calculated temperature after doubling of CO2 from 0.03 to 0.06% ≈ 288.11K.  Climate sensitivity to CO2 is ≈ 288.14 – 288.11 ≈ – 0.03K. The change would in fact be extremely small and difficult to estimate exactly, but would be of the order -0.03°C. That is, a hundred times smaller than the ‘likely’ climate sensitivity of 3°C cited in the IPCC’s reports and probably be of the opposite sign [negative]. Even that small number would likely be a maximum change, since if fossil fuels are burned to create the emitted CO2, then atmospheric O2 will also be consumed, reducing that gas in the atmosphere – and offsetting any temperature change generated by the extra CO2. This climate sensitivity is already so low that it would be impossible to detect or measure in the real atmosphere, even before any allowance is made for the consumption of atmospheric O₂.

Holmes’ conclusion

‘There can be no significant ‘greenhouse warming’ caused by greenhouse gases on Earth, or for that matter on any other planetary body. Instead, it is proposed that the residual temperature difference on Earth, and the tropospheric thermal gradient observed, are actually caused by adiabatic auto-compression.’

[Holmes’ paper clearly defines auto compression – same formula is also used extensively in the mining industry to direct the flow of air – and he also explains the proposed adiabatic mechanism].

Remember that his report is only one of many reports showing that the effect of more CO2 in the air is nothing or next to nothing: 

168 scientific papers showing that the effect of more carbon dioxide in the air is nothing or next to nothing… | Bread on the water

 

The 1,5 degree C warming limit myth

Take a few minutes to watch this video. Despite certain areas already having passed the ‘limit’ there is no ‘tipping’ point that has been noticed. In contrast with the NH, the warming in the SH is much lower. For example, in South Africa there has been hardly any warming at all:

No change in temperature in South Africa for more than 45 years! | Bread on the water

On its own this already proves that the warming of earth is not related to carbon dioxide, as the gas behaves like an ideal gas and spreads more or less evenly over the atmosphere. The rate of increase in CO2 is everywhere the same and therefore the increase in temperature should be more or less the same everywhere. 

Skeptics win: Endangerment finding of CO2 is axed from the books of law!

Today is a monumental win for climate skeptics

Today’s decision by the Environmental Protection Agency (USA) to remove the Carbon Dioxide Endangerment Finding represents a pivotal shift in America’s approach to climate policy—one rooted in evidence, not ideology. For years, this “finding” has served as the legal justification for an array of costly, far-reaching regulations targeting everything from our nation’s power plants to the cars we drive and the energy bills we pay. Its removal is a direct response to mounting evidence that the basis for this rule was always more about speculative modeling and political maneuvering than sound science. Watch the announcement here:

Africa’s Atlantic Coast Sea Level is still 1 meter lower today than it was 2000 years ago

Africa’s Atlantic Coast Sea Level is still 1 meter lower today than it was 2000 years ago

For the people who insist that man-made climate change will cause higher sea levels and subsequent flooding and floods, there is a new recent study that shows them wrong. As noted by me and others, CO2 concentrations in the air have nothing to do with the warming of the seas, nor with sea levels. The new study shows that the sea level of the Atlantic coast of Africa varied from 0.8 to 4 meters higher between 5000 and 1700 years ago compared to what it is today. So, sea levels around the Atlantic coast in Africa were at least 1 meter higher in the Roman Warm Period, when Jesus was born…….

see:

Vacchi et al., 2025

For more information, see source: 

New Study: Africa’s Atlantic Coast Sea Levels Were Still 1 Meter Higher Than Today 2000 Years Ago – Watts Up With That?

More evidence that a race of fair giants once roamed the world

More evidence that a race of fair giants once roamed the world

Mythology, folklore and even the Bible tell us that giants once roamed the Earth. And, it turns out, there’s evidence to back this claim. Extraordinary human remains have been found in the US state of Nevada, with some of the skeletons measuring up to 10 feet tall. Alongside their jaw-dropping size, the bodies – some of which were said to have been mummified – were found to have had red hair.

This has fuelled the theory, passed down through the ages, that a long-forgotten race of humans once [also] dominated southwestern America. According to the Paiute, a tribe that settled in the Nevada region thousands of years ago, cannibalistic, red-haired giants called the Si-Te-Cah came to the Americas from a distant island. Legend has it that the Si-Te-Cah crossed the ocean on rafts made of reeds, and they soon made a name for themselves as being taller, stronger and crueller than ordinary men. Then, in 1911, while digging for bat guano (a key ingredient in fertilizer) in a cave near the city of Lovelock, Nevada, some miners unearthed a number of strange objects. This prompted the launch of two official excavations in 1912 and then in 1924, during which thousands of artefacts were recovered.

Among the staggering finds were the mummies, nicknamed the Lovelock Giants, which measured between 8 and 10 feet tall, according to Archaeology World They also found 15-inch-long sandals that showed signs of wear and a boulder etched with what appears to be a giant handprint. Shortly after the second excavation, in 1931, an article published in local newspaper the Nevada Review-Miner, claimed that two giant skeletons had been discovered in a dry lake bed close to Lovelock. These remains measured 8.5 and 10 feet in height respectively, and were mummified in a manner similar to that employed by the Ancient Egyptians.

And while all of this may sound far-fetched, the legend of these strange people crops up all over the Americas. For example, in the sixteenth century, a Spanish conquistador, called Pedro Cieza de León, recorded an ancient Peruvian tale about the giants’ origins. In his account, de León wrote that the towering figures “came by sea in rafts of reeds [in] the manner of large boats” and that “some of the men were so tall that from the knee down they were as big as the length of an ordinary fair-sized man.” Furthermore, high up in the Andes, between Peru and Bolivia, skeletons with elongated skulls have been found. The remains are said to be around 3,000 years old and much larger than normal human ones. Intriguingly, some of them were also found to have red hair.

According to Archaeology World, some scientists attribute this reddish colour to the environment in which the bodies were buried. However, others view it as proof of the existence of the Si-Te-Cah and their kin. And if you’re wondering how such a strong and monstrous race came to disappear if indeed it ever existed at all, the Paiute have the answer. According to their mythology, the Si-Te-Cah waged war on them and all other neighbouring tribes, wreaking terror and destruction. After years of [in] fighting, the tribes united against this formidable foe. Eventually, the last remaining giants were chased away and sought shelter inside Lovelock cave. Seizing their chance, the tribes started a fire at the cave entrance, suffocating and burning alive the few Si-Te-Cah who were left. Interestingly, when the initial discoveries were made at the cave back in 1911, evidence of extreme burning near its entrance was found, the History Channel reports.

This article was originally published on 25 June 2024

Source: ’10-foot-tall people’ discovered in Nevada cave | indy100

Now look how all the threads of this story of giants seem to be coming together…if you truly look at all the evidence, for example, the giant statues of Easter Island, it becomes very difficult to deny the story. If you are interested in knowing more, start here:

Atlantis Rising? | Bread on the water

and finish here:

Could it be that an advanced civilization of giant people existed long before Noah’s flood? | Bread on the water